Is the bujinkan dojo a respectable dojo?

by admin on May 8, 2010

I have grown interested in this martial art style and dojo since im moving to Japan in five months for training. it just seems that this martial art style and the dojo are marketed everywhere. you can take course at home instructional videos. Is it a style in which I can become strong in or is it just some big marketing tool?


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Renyo May 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm

Just like to say that I agree with idai and "Bujinkan"…

however, Hatsumi sensei teaches only Judan (10th dan). You wont be refused from his classes but you wont know what is going on….in the SLIGHTEST (if you’re starting with him at 10th kyu). best find yourself one of the English speaking shihan over there and study with them, or if you can handle the language barrier, one of the japanese shihan. Bujinkan only seems well marketed as there are over 150,000 of us. And yes, MOST shidoshi are rubbish…

(EDIT) In saying this, the Bujinkan would be heavier "policed" in Japan than anywhere else in the world…you won’t really find any crap shidoshi in Japan…

edit2: and a big-up to idai’s edit, never a truer word spoken …

EDIT 3 TO ASYMNATION:
Yeah sorry I mean’t to be clearer. Anybody from about 6th kyu and upwards will get something (or alot) out of Hatsumi’s classes (the better you are the more you’ll take home).
What i mean’t was that he only teaches material at a 10th dan level…as in, he ain’t gonna show the basics unless its a Daikomyosai or other seminar, and it’s up to the individual to keep up.
The first thing people generally learn in Bujinkan Budo is kamae, basic rolling, punches and some kihon happo kata, Hatsumi sensei is not going to teach these things in his normal classes. Sorry about the confusion.

ladyisirish May 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm

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Bujinkan May 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm

Yes, the Bujinkan is a very respectable organization. We practice the art of Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu. It’s one of the very few organizations that teaches authentic Ninjutsu and is one of the last complete combat martial arts. If you have the opportunity to train with Hatsumi Soke at the Bujinkan Honbu Dojo in Chiba, Japan then do it!!!

Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu is comprised of nine ryuha. 3 are Ninpo ryu (the highest order of Ninjutsu), 3 are Samurai ryu, and the other 3 were used by Ninja and Samurai alike. It is very applicable in modern day life and is used by many military and law enforcement agencies. Some of its Samurai ryuha are ancient styles of Jutaijutsu (Jujitsu) which gives it a lot of it’s grappling and ground fighting techniques. Though many of it’s grappling techniques come from Ninjutsu.

It can be a very effective martial art. I highly recommend you give it a try.

idai May 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm

Hi there

The Bujinkan is a real organisation with real instructors around the world. Problem is most of them are crap! If you are lucky enough to find a good shidoshi who trains regulary in Japan then you are onto a winner. Your chances of finding one are however very slim indeed! Of course the home study course is a con and the man responsible for it really should know better. You have to train in the right circles and attend many seminars with the top shihan to really learn this.

Bujinkan taijutsu when trained correctly is similar to jujutsu and aikido. The ninja aspect of it is very small indeed so if you are attracted to it for its ninja qualities then you will be very disapointed. If you are also interested in the UFC and the latest craze of modern martial arts then i would recommend you look somewhere else! If you are considering going to japan to train with the boss then i would only recommend you do this by going with a respectable shidoshi. If you just turn up out of the blue (which many do) with no training or any basic foundation of taijutsu then you wont get shown a great deal whilst you are there or get invited back to the private classes. Many people do this and its a real shame because all they are doing is throwing there money down the drain. Better to get your shodan and some experience before venturing to japan and its even better to be invited first! Just because you can go dosent give you the right to?

Buying the books, watching the dvds etc is only good as a reference point. It is no substitue for actual dojo training!

The internet isnt a subsitute teacher but con men will use it as a tool to take your money. Just use the web as a resource and dojo locator because thats all its worth!

There seems to be many martial arts experts on line these days that are all self taught?

Very silly!

Edit: What renyo said about the shihan in japan is also true! Make no mistake regardless of what crap you read on line. Hatsumi in japan is regarded very highly. He is one of only a handfull of masters that teach at the budokan which is by invite only! Forget the rubbish you read online! Anyone who has trained with this man knows what he can do!

Edit 2. Renyo’s right other shihan do basics classes. Shirishi sensai is excellent at demonstrating the basic stuff! Really nice guy he is his too! Wasnt a big fan of his green tea though! ;-)

Best wishes

idai

asymnation May 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm

In response to Renyo’s comment: a friend of mine who is kudan (9th Dan) has trained with Hatsumi Soke at least a few times that I know of, so I’m not sure that only judan and above would be able to learn anything.

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